We're always open to suggestions for improving the site. I have updated the author pane to include the following:
Online/Offline status
Join date
Number of posts
As for the homeport, is this a User profile page, or a My Account Dashboard? I have added a new Dropdown menu on the top right hand corner of the page. The submenu items are Dashboard, Messages, View/Edit, & Logout. Click on Dashboard to view the new Dashboard. I built some views blocks in there to show... well, to show items that I thought would be useful on a dashboard. I also changed the redirect destination upon successful login. When you log in from the Home Page, you will now be taken directly to your dashboard. If you log in from any other page, you will be redirected back to the page you were viewing prior to logging in.
For a Profile page, the other day I allowed for adding some additional user information, such as web addresses, real name, and a biography. If you fill these out, they will appear on your profile page.
SeaSon Ticket, You are correct. It looks like we were only calculating posts based on forum topics. Comments were excluded from the calculation. This has been fixed.
I noticed something else today. If you quote someone in a thread, it moves your post to the area of the thread where it was quoted from. In other words, let's say a thread is six pages long and you never responded to it. Now,you read the thread and quote the poster on the third page, your post will appear appear on the third page , not at the end, kinda weird.
I'm gonna transfer my 1800+ posts from www.blackfinowners.com this site here. www.blackfinforums.net is the best blackfin boat owners site ever. So anyone needing information about a blackfin boat needs to be on www.blackfinforums.net. One stop for all your blackfin boat wiring diagrams, blackfin parts, blackfin rondevous, and blackfin mikey. Google This
I'm gonna transfer my 1800+ posts from www.blackfinowners.com this site here. www.blackfinforums.net is the best blackfin boat owners site ever. So anyone needing information about a blackfin boat needs to be on www.blackfinforums.net. One stop for all your blackfin boat wiring diagrams, blackfin parts, blackfin rondevous, and blackfin mikey. Google This
I noticed something else today. If you quote someone in a thread, it moves your post to the area of the thread where it was quoted from. In other words, let's say a thread is six pages long and you never responded to it. Now,you read the thread and quote the poster on the third page, your post will appear appear on the third page , not at the end, kinda weird.
Look at Post #5 and notice the date: Tue, 08/30/2011 - 18:36
Now look at Post #6 and notice the date: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 21:53
I just think if you respond half way thru a topic, your comment may never get read.
IDK about you, but I usually check the end of a thread for new responses.
Just my $0.02
This is there by design. The forum uses message threading. You will notice how comments in response to comments are indented. You can either use the "Quick Reply" button, or the "Add new comment" form to reply to the topic as a whole. Otherwise, you can reply to an individual comment by clicking on the "reply" button or "quote" link on that individual comment. Keep in mind that you may also use the BBCode quote syntax. Note: I have changed the "reply" button on comments to "reply to this", to help make sense of the difference.
The basic structure of threaded messages are as follows
Topic
Comment A ( response to Topic )
Comment B ( response to Topic )
Comment C ( response to Comment B )
Comment D ( response to Comment B )
Comment E ( response to Comment B )
Comment F ( response to Comment E )
Comment G ( response to Comment F )
Comment H ( response to Comment E )
Comment I ( response to Comment B )
Comment J ( response to Comment B )
Comment K ( response to Topic )
There are both advantages and disadvantages to using this style of thread. You have already pointed out the greatest disadvantage.
Advantages
The reader can easily understand the structure of the conversation, such as who is replying to whom.
Since responses are made to specific posts, they are also seen as being a reply to an individual. This makes long conversations or debates much easier to follow. Without this feature, it becomes increasingly difficult to follow a conversation.
It can, in most cases, eliminate the need for the "quote" method. Since we already know who you are replying to. The only need for quote is if you only want to address a limited excerpt of another's post.
Disadvantages
Comments will not be listed in chronological order. Newest posts will not always appear last. This was already pointed out.
Some argue that since messages can be replied to individually, it can lead to more confrontational style debating.
The site can use either threaded comments or traditional flat comments. I'd like to get more input from the members before we make a change. I can make the switch for you guys to preview if you would like.
I prefer the threaded list, but you guys already know that. I got a voicemail from Mike, who prefers the flat messages. He said that no other forums use threaded lists. vBulletin, which the blackfinowners web site ran on, does have threading, but the admin must have turned it off. I thought I would provide some examples.
Threaded:
Disqus commenting software, which is used by the following:
Nice Jim, thanks, much appreciated. Your attention to our wants and needs is greatly appreciated. I hope that you, in no way take any of this as criticism. It's just that us "ol' timers" are used to things one way. We kinda hate change, lol.
That said, we are always open to your suggestions and willing to try differnt things. Keep up the good work!
One more thing, should the homeport be a separate field than the address? I'm guessing that by homeport, you mean where you dock the boat? I'm not sure if I'm using the proper terminology here, so excuse me if I'm not. I'm just the wannabe on here.
I think we could just replace "Location" with "Homeport"(kind of a "play on words"???). I think using your current location may be better than where your boat is docked, as some of the smaller Blackfins may be trailered.
Okay, the Homeport has been added to the Author Pane. FYI: It currently renders the user location fields as follows: "city, state". There are other variables available. Let me know if we should customize the display. Available variables, which you can see while editing your user account, are as follows:
Regarding some text formatting errors in the Auto Trim post at ( http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/auto-trim ). It appears that text was attempted to be copied from another web site and pasted into the field here. The text field on this site tries to preserve formatting when pasted into this box. This can cause issues if, for example, the copied text is white. It can also cause issues if you are copying from the middle of a bulleted list or table. Another problem is that some formatting depends on style sheets from the other site.
All of this is what caused the issues with posts #20 and #23, by Blackfin Mike and SeaSon Ticket. A bunch of markup is pasted in the box that is specific to the site is was taken from.
How to avoid this? Use the icon "Paste as Plain Text" in the toolbar here. It should be icon #22. This will remove all of the formatting problems that can be caused by pasting snippets of HTML code into the post. Just click the button, then paste inside the box. You will then need to format the text yourself.
Note that there is also a Paste from Word option. This button should allow you to paste content from MS Word, and preserve it's formatting, while stripping out the hundreds of lines of MS Word specific garbage that comes with it when you hit "copy".
Regarding some text formatting errors in the Auto Trim post at ( http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/auto-trim ). It appears that text was attempted to be copied from another web site and pasted into the field here. The text field on this site tries to preserve formatting when pasted into this box. This can cause issues if, for example, the copied text is white. It can also cause issues if you are copying from the middle of a bulleted list or table. Another problem is that some formatting depends on style sheets from the other site.
All of this is what caused the issues with posts #20 and #23, by Blackfin Mike and SeaSon Ticket. A bunch of markup is pasted in the box that is specific to the site is was taken from.
How to avoid this? Use the icon "Paste as Plain Text" in the toolbar here. It should be icon #22. This will remove all of the formatting problems that can be caused by pasting snippets of HTML code into the post. Just click the button, then paste inside the box. You will then need to format the text yourself.
Note that there is also a Paste from Word option. This button should allow you to paste content from MS Word, and preserve it's formatting, while stripping out the hundreds of lines of MS Word specific garbage that comes with it when you hit "copy".
I don't believe you went through all of this just because some pudgy Portuguese guy wanted some sort of link, you are the man
I have a 29' Combi that I am rebuilding and reconfiguring in Manchester Massachusetts. For Sale are the 1991 454 Crusaders and transmissions with 1400 hours, Maintenance records available. The windshield, and the welded pipe bimini and front drop curtains are also for sale. Boat is in the water until end of July. Engines $4,000, bimini $1,500 or B/O. Windshield free.
Join date a pretty good one too...
We're always open to suggestions for improving the site. I have updated the author pane to include the following:
As for the homeport, is this a User profile page, or a My Account Dashboard? I have added a new Dropdown menu on the top right hand corner of the page. The submenu items are Dashboard, Messages, View/Edit, & Logout. Click on Dashboard to view the new Dashboard. I built some views blocks in there to show... well, to show items that I thought would be useful on a dashboard. I also changed the redirect destination upon successful login. When you log in from the Home Page, you will now be taken directly to your dashboard. If you log in from any other page, you will be redirected back to the page you were viewing prior to logging in.
I'll also provide a link here to the Dashboard, it is http://www.blackfinforums.net/dashboard . The link to view your PMs is http://www.blackfinforums.net/messages .
For a Profile page, the other day I allowed for adding some additional user information, such as web addresses, real name, and a biography. If you fill these out, they will appear on your profile page.
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Thinking something along these line:
We could use Location instead of Homeport
SeaSon Ticket
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
One thing though, I have made three post and my post # has not changed???
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
SeaSon Ticket, You are correct. It looks like we were only calculating posts based on forum topics. Comments were excluded from the calculation. This has been fixed.
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Cool, thanks. Let's see if it works....
Nope, still stays the same, I even logged off and came back in, no change..
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
OK, let's see if I get to 43. Hey, great way to increase the post count!
Nope...
..38 under construction.....Getting better
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/re-doing-my-salon-lay-out-38
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-re-power
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-refurb-thread
I noticed something else today. If you quote someone in a thread, it moves your post to the area of the thread where it was quoted from. In other words, let's say a thread is six pages long and you never responded to it. Now,you read the thread and quote the poster on the third page, your post will appear appear on the third page , not at the end, kinda weird.
For example,look here: http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/blackfin-threads-tht
Look at Post #5 and notice the date: Tue, 08/30/2011 - 18:36
Now look at Post #6 and notice the date: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 21:53
I just think if you respond half way thru a topic, your comment may never get read.
IDK about you, but I usually check the end of a thread for new responses.
Just my $0.02
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
I'm gonna transfer my 1800+ posts from www.blackfinowners.com this site here. www.blackfinforums.net is the best blackfin boat owners site ever. So anyone needing information about a blackfin boat needs to be on www.blackfinforums.net. One stop for all your blackfin boat wiring diagrams, blackfin parts, blackfin rondevous, and blackfin mikey. Google This
commercial municipal and residential
electronic security
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Ha I got seabob by 2
commercial municipal and residential
electronic security
www.nesecurity1.com
Google what?????
..38 under construction.....Getting better
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/re-doing-my-salon-lay-out-38
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-re-power
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-refurb-thread
Reel,
You funny man!
Well Keith he just tied you again
..38 under construction.....Getting better
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/re-doing-my-salon-lay-out-38
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-re-power
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-refurb-thread
Where's the "Off topic" smiley?
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
This is there by design. The forum uses message threading. You will notice how comments in response to comments are indented. You can either use the "Quick Reply" button, or the "Add new comment" form to reply to the topic as a whole. Otherwise, you can reply to an individual comment by clicking on the "reply" button or "quote" link on that individual comment. Keep in mind that you may also use the BBCode quote syntax. Note: I have changed the "reply" button on comments to "reply to this", to help make sense of the difference.
The basic structure of threaded messages are as follows
Topic
There are both advantages and disadvantages to using this style of thread. You have already pointed out the greatest disadvantage.
Advantages
Disadvantages
The site can use either threaded comments or traditional flat comments. I'd like to get more input from the members before we make a change. I can make the switch for you guys to preview if you would like.
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Thank You Jim, "you are like the "Eveready Bunny", always there when we need you.
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
As far as threading goes, if you are looking for votes, I personally prefer the "traditional flat comments".
Let's see what everyone else prefers.
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
I prefer the threaded list, but you guys already know that. I got a voicemail from Mike, who prefers the flat messages. He said that no other forums use threaded lists. vBulletin, which the blackfinowners web site ran on, does have threading, but the admin must have turned it off. I thought I would provide some examples.
Threaded:
Comment threading is somewhat new, and some software, such as phpBB, do not support it yet.
For now, I have turned of the threaded comment view, in favor of the flat list.
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Nice Jim, thanks, much appreciated. Your attention to our wants and needs is greatly appreciated. I hope that you, in no way take any of this as criticism. It's just that us "ol' timers" are used to things one way.
We kinda hate change, lol.
That said, we are always open to your suggestions and willing to try differnt things. Keep up the good work!
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
Familiararity is a comforting thing sometimes...
One more thing, should the homeport be a separate field than the address? I'm guessing that by homeport, you mean where you dock the boat? I'm not sure if I'm using the proper terminology here, so excuse me if I'm not. I'm just the wannabe on here.
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Here's how it's done on another site:
I think we could just replace "Location" with "Homeport"(kind of a "play on words"???). I think using your current location may be better than where your boat is docked, as some of the smaller Blackfins may be trailered.
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
Okay, the Homeport has been added to the Author Pane. FYI: It currently renders the user location fields as follows: "city, state". There are other variables available. Let me know if we should customize the display. Available variables, which you can see while editing your user account, are as follows:
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Don't know how the others feel, but the map link might be cool. I'm sure there are some that don't even know it exists.
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
Regarding some text formatting errors in the Auto Trim post at ( http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/auto-trim ). It appears that text was attempted to be copied from another web site and pasted into the field here. The text field on this site tries to preserve formatting when pasted into this box. This can cause issues if, for example, the copied text is white. It can also cause issues if you are copying from the middle of a bulleted list or table. Another problem is that some formatting depends on style sheets from the other site.
All of this is what caused the issues with posts #20 and #23, by Blackfin Mike and SeaSon Ticket. A bunch of markup is pasted in the box that is specific to the site is was taken from.
How to avoid this? Use the icon "Paste as Plain Text" in the toolbar here. It should be icon #22. This will remove all of the formatting problems that can be caused by pasting snippets of HTML code into the post. Just click the button, then paste inside the box. You will then need to format the text yourself.
Note that there is also a Paste from Word option. This button should allow you to paste content from MS Word, and preserve it's formatting, while stripping out the hundreds of lines of MS Word specific garbage that comes with it when you hit "copy".
Jim Bova
Owner, NerdyiT LLC
Cool, thanks Jim.
1995 38' Convertible
6v92 DDEC'c 565hp
I don't believe you went through all of this just because some pudgy Portuguese guy wanted some sort of link, you are the man
..38 under construction.....Getting better
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/re-doing-my-salon-lay-out-38
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-re-power
http://www.blackfinforums.net/content/38-blackfin-refurb-thread
I have a 29' Combi that I am rebuilding and reconfiguring in Manchester Massachusetts. For Sale are the 1991 454 Crusaders and transmissions with 1400 hours, Maintenance records available. The windshield, and the welded pipe bimini and front drop curtains are also for sale. Boat is in the water until end of July. Engines $4,000, bimini $1,500 or B/O. Windshield free.
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